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CSS margin pushing the body element

I'm setting a margin for a div element, however the body element also gets that margin.

Consider this code:

<!-- HTML -->
<body>
  <div>
  </div>
</body>

<!-- CSS -->
<style>
  html,body {
   height:100%;
   margin:0;
   padding:0;
   outline:1px solid blue;
  }

 div {
   margin:20px;
   outline:1px solid red;
 }

</style>

This is the result and the problem: http://i54.tinypic.com/29ve1zl.jpg

So far I've solved the problem by adding a border:1px solid transparent; property to the body element. This ruins the 100% height because scrollbars appear due to the 1px border. Why does this happen?

POSSIBLE SOLUTION (thanks for the help): Add a padding-top:1px and a margin-top:-1px , this way the 100% height doesn't gets ruined with the scrollbars and your are avoiding margin collapsing.

This sounds similar to a problem I had: Margins and negative margins . I solved mine by putting a padding-top rather than a border, maybe this works with your design slightly better? Otherwise try this link: http://www.seifi.org/css/understanding-taming-collapsing-margins-in-css.html

This is caused by an effect known as collapsing margins.

Certain adjoining margins combine to form a single margin. Those margins are said to “collapse.” Margins are adjoining if there are no nonempty content, padding or border areas or clearance to separate them.

http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-box/#collapsing-margins

I know this is an old question, but I just wanna point out that, in the example given in the question, one could use padding instead of margins:

 <!-- HTML --> <body> <div> content </div> </body> <!-- CSS --> <style> html, body { box-sizing: border-box; /* padding makes part of the */ height: 100%; /* box whose height is 100% */ margin: 0; padding: 0; outline: 1px solid blue; } body { padding: 20px; } div { outline: 1px solid red; } </style> 

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