Can somebody please explain this IE7 bug to me? It occurs in Standards and Quirks mode rendering, it does not occur in Firefox, Chrome or IE8 (though switching the rendering engine via IE8 developer tools will provoke it). Here's the HTML to reproduce the behavior:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Test</title>
<style type="text/css">
/* h1 { margin: 0px; } */
ul { padding: 0; margin: 0; list-style-type: none; }
ul li { float: left; width: 140px; padding: 3px; }
div { clear: left; padding: 3px; }
div, li { background-color: OrangeRed; }
/* ul { border: 1px solid blue; } */
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Heading 1</h1>
<ul>
<li>bla 1</li><li>bla 2</li><li>bla 3</li>
</ul>
<div>yada</div>
</body>
</html>
<ul>
above a <div>
(supposed to be a tabbed user interface). <div>
and the <ul>
. <h1>
. The gap disappears and the list is rendered tight to the <div>
, but also very close to the <h1>
. <ul>
. Now a narrow blue border is rendered above the <ul>
, but the gap disappears. My questions:
<h1>
margin (I suppose any block level element with a defined margin will do) affect the space below the list? <ul>
borders (setting border-width: 0;
does not work BTW)? I suppose it is connected to the <ul>
itself having no height because it has only floated children. Maybe someone with more insight into IE7 peculiarities than I have can explain what the rendering engine is doing here. Thanks!
It's the Incorrect Float Shrink-Wrap Bug . The linked article explains the issue. It also affects IE6 btw.
As Sjaak Priester, the person whom Gérard Talbot credits for the bug, reasons is that IE first renders the floated element on the same line as the previous float, then sees clear and clears it under but fails to redraw the text.
One of the common solutions is the clearfix
hack as answered by someone else here, or placing an empty clearing element after the block with the floats, like a <br style="clear:left;">
. Put it between the ul
and the div
. This way IE will force the clear before reaching the div
.
I've come up with a solution that is what seems like a good compromise. It's based on the fact that setting a border on the <ul>
solves the problem, while the margin-bottom
of the preceding-sibling block-level element obviously causes it.
So setting a border-top: 1px solid transparent;
on the <ul>
displaces it by merely one pixel, which is okay with me. As BalusC rightly points out in the comments, setting margin-top: -1px;
would counteract the displacement.
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Test</title>
<style type="text/css">
ul { padding: 0; margin: 0; border-top: 1px solid transparent; list-style-type: none; }
ul li { float: left; width: 140px; background-color: red; }
div { clear: left; background-color: red; }
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Heading 1</h1>
<ul>
<li>bla 1</li><li>bla 2</li><li>bla 3</li>
</ul>
<div>yada</div>
</body>
</html>
I admit that this is a bit of hackery, too; it requires remembering what the bogus border is for, which is not much better than the usual CSS tricks (but a little).
Previous version of the answer: I've fixed it like this for now (seems it works across browsers and does not require CSS hackery)
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Test</title>
<style type="text/css">
div.t ul { padding: 0; margin: 0; list-style-type: none; }
div.t ul li { float: left; width: 140px; background-color: red; }
div.c { background-color: red; }
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Heading 1</h1>
<div class="t">
<ul>
<li>bla 1</li><li>bla 2</li><li>bla 3</li>
</ul>
<br style="clear: left;">
</div>
<div class="c">yada</div>
</body>
</html>
I don't like this solution very much because the of the extra elements it requires. But I dislike dirty CSS tricks even more.
That's a really bizarre problem, IE seems to be full of these delights. I haven't found out exactly why it's deciding to render like that but with proper clearing of the floats you can usually avoid all of this trouble. The following code seems to give some consistency (in other words it's the same with or without the H1 css rule).
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Test</title>
<style type="text/css">
h1 { margin: 0px; }
ul { padding: 0; margin: 0; list-style-type: none;}
ul li { float: left; width: 140px; padding: 3px; }
div, li { background-color: OrangeRed; }
ul { border: 1px solid blue; }
.clearfix:after {
content: ".";
display: block;
height: 0;
clear: both;
visibility: hidden;
}
.clearfix {display: inline-block;} /* for IE/Mac */
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Heading 1</h1>
<div class="clearfix">
<ul class="t">
<li>bla 1</li><li>bla 2</li><li>bla 3</li>
</ul>
</div>
<div>yada</div>
</body>
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